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FamNet eNewsletter December 2015
ISSN 2253-4040
Quote. Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. – Unknown
Contents
Telling
your story. Index so far
DNA
Testing for Family History
Current
pricings for the three main genealogical testing firms
Ancestral Tourism and Norfolk Island
Repairing
and Caring for Ancestor’s Graves
Whangarei Family History Computer
Group
Green Island Memorial Gardens
Research Project
William
Osborne in New Zealand
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FamNet, like all genealogy software, has a very strong connection to people but a weak connection to place. Who were your parents and siblings? Who were their parents and siblings? FamNet is good at recording these relationships. But try asking it or any other family history software questions like “What community shaped my father?” You’re not going to do this with a simple query!
As my grandchildren progressed through primary school and started doing their family history projects FamNet became very useful to them, but the questions that the teacher asked my Kerikeri grandchildren made me think. “What is your mountain? What is your river?” My first thought was “What on earth has this to do with family history?” Maori orators may refer to “their mountain” when they’re talking about their ancestors but as a Pakeha I’d dismissed this as a bit of cultural nonsense. Reflecting on these Kerikeri questions I realised that they’re actually hinting at something quite profound. We are shaped by our family, but also our place.
For me, born in Wanganui but brought up in New Plymouth the
questions were easy to answer. My river
is the Whanganui, my mountain Taranaki.
I don’t feel much connection to
Enough emotion! But all this has made me think about “How can FamNet support this idea of place, of community”. I’ve got some ideas – see Name Lists below. Let me know what you think. Is this worth doing? Will you use it if I provide this enhancement?
I’m pleased to see that the Community Section is starting to
be used. After years of it being ignored, it’s as if users have suddenly
realised that it’s there.
·
Current
DNA test pricing. Gail gives the prices
on offer from the three main genealogy DNA testing companies.
·
Wairarapa
Wanderer: “Five Fingers of Lead”. Adele
discovers links between Carterton and Derbyshire.
·
The
Nash Rambler. Backups, Remembering,
Disposal of Books.
·
Jan’s
Jottings - Sourcing
·
Ancestral Tourism.
· In the community section,
· Alan is seeking and also offering information about Servicemen from Porirua for a Porirua RSA website project.
·
Irene is doing something similar for
· Toni Osborne is seeking information about William Osborne
·
Can you help?
·
In Book Reviews Peter has reviewed two books, “
This will be the last newsletter this year, so let me wish you all the best for Christmas and the New Year. I hope you have a happy time with your family over Christmas, and that 2016 is a great year for you.
I was going to write #9 in the “Telling your story” series, showing you how to create merged trees. However I’ve decided that for this issue I’ll spend my time discussing the idea of “Name Lists”, as this has me excited. Potentially it provides a useful facility, allowing us to not only bring in the Maori idea of “What is your place” but organize data by any other community of interest – people that emigrated from a place, went to a particular school, lived somewhere, and so on. With little or no enhancement to the facilities already present it would be easy for FamNet to provide the facilities being lost as LostFriends closes down, within the context of the rich family relationship management that only a genealogy site can provide.
The genealogy database, a large collection of records that are linked to each other through family relationships, is the main database in FamNet, but almost as important are the General Resource Databases. These are essentially lists – of people, or of categories. Click [General Resource Databases] and you see many lists of people: -
and below, many lists of categories: -
As NZGDB evolved into FamNet I was keen to get as many such databases as possible. I quickly realised that creating tables for each different situation was going to be unmanageable both for me as programmer and for you as user, so I developed a general facility, allowing me to create a new table in minutes, that is instantly available for users to search, and the group manager to update. For example, on receiving the information requests for Porirua and Green Island that are described below I set up a table of Service Personnel containing the records for these projects. It took me only an hour or so to set up this table and to load their spreadsheets into it: now Alan and Irene have a searchable table that they can maintain, and that can appear on their own web sites as well as in FamNet. Alan’s records all contain links that you can click to see a biography on the Porirua RSA site. As he adds further records he can easily create links to these new biographies as well.
The more such lists that we have the more likely you are to find something of interest to you, but also the more unwieldy it all becomes. As I was setting up the table for Alan and Irene it occurred to me that their table is not very different to the list of emigrants that I set up a while back, or the list of burials. Each is a list of people containing the basic fields of name (given and family), one or two dates, and a list of further fields. With a few simple changes I can simplify FamNet, and also make it more useful.
I am going to combine several of the people tables, using a couple of fields (“Category Type” and “Category”) to distinguish them. Thus tables like “Burials etc”, “Emigrants”, “Service Personnel”, and others will disappear, to be replaced by “People”. When you look up the People table you can search by name and you’ll find the records that were in all of these earlier tables. You can select a Category Type (e.g. “Burials”) to see only the records that you would have seen before in the Burials table, or selecting “Category” to see only the records at the Featherston cemetery. This will make wide searching much easier than at present, while making specific searching no harder. A Categories record will be defined, and will combine the functions of Cemeteries, Emigration From, and other current Category records.
Anybody will be able to create another category, so that if you want to create a category for “Taranaki”, “New Plymouth Boys’ High School” or anything else, then you’ll be able to do this and instantly you’ll have available a person record with any or all of the 40-odd field types defined for the current Burials record. Not all fields will be relevant for your category: you wouldn’t include “Celebrant” for a record that’s intended to record school pupils. Both your category record and the person record may include images, and most of the fields in either table will be searchable.
As time goes by the list of fields for both category and person will expand, but starting with the field lists for Cemeteries and Burials we’ll have more than we need for most purposes. I will add a new field type for a Google Map reference.
If I can make it simple enough users should be able to create new categories without my involvement unless they need a new field type. Everything described here (except Google Map references) is already present in FamNet, so we may be able to support many of the functions being lost with the closure of Old Friends, as well as supporting concepts of place and association in a very general way. New people should be able to simply come to the FamNet web site, register (email and name), find groups (=categories) of interest to them (create new ones if necessary), and invite others to join these groups. Actually FamNet can do almost all of this now, just not in a particularly user-friendly way. I need to make it as easy as Facebook.
Given my personal time constraints and the level of financial support for FamNet that precludes my paying anybody else to help with development it may take some time to achieve this. The first thing however is for you to tell me that this is worth doing. If I can provide these facilities, will you use them, creating lists of schools, areas, iwi, whatever, and encouraging other people to join them?
So far I’ve covered these topics. 1. Writing your story as notes, or with Word. Embedding links in Word documents. 2. Embedding pictures in Word documents. 3. Saving Documents for Web Publication. 5. Sharing your Story: Managing your Family Group 6. On Line Editing: More Facts, Family, GDB Links 7. Comparing and Synchronising Records The next topic in this series is planned to be “Creating Merged Trees” |
This is a complete list of the articles written by Gail over the last year or so.
© Gail Riddell 2014
Just click the link to go back to a previous article in this series.
1. What is Molecular Genealogy?
4. What DNA will NOT tell you and the risks involved.
5. Direct paternal line (men only).
6. Direct maternal line (men and women).
7. All the lineages including maternal and paternal (men and women).
8. Understanding direct paternal results.
9. Understanding direct maternal line results.
10. Understanding your Autosomal ("cousin") results.
11. Understanding the X Chromosome.
12.
Bits ‘n
Bobs: DNA Testing Companies, Glossary.
13.
DNA
Websites, Blogs, and Forums
14.
Commonly
Asked Questions – Some Basic, Some Advanced
15.
DNA –
Something a little different…
At this time of year, you may be thinking of an interesting present to give a loved one. If he or she has an interest in genealogy, have you considered purchasing a DNA test? If you have, here are some prices that may aid you with choosing.
As at 21 November 2015.
The NZ exchange rate is at the end. along with a website to check for
yourself. Remember that your credit card
will also add a commission. All are
cheek swab tests done in the privacy of your own home.
Found
at www.familytreedna.com (prices are US$)
Holiday
Sale began Sunday, November 15 and extends through 11:59 p.m. CST on December
31, 2015. Bonus coupon mailings began Monday, November 16. Coupons are good for
7 days and new ones will be sent each Monday of the sale.
For your
convenience, here is a chart of FTDNA products and sale prices, including
upgrades.
YDNA |
Standard Price |
Group Price |
|
Y12 |
$59 |
|
not on sale |
Y25 |
$109 |
|
not on sale |
Y37 |
$169 |
$149 |
$139 |
Y67 |
$268 |
$248 |
$228 |
Y111 |
$359 |
$339 |
$309 |
YDNA Upgrades |
Standard Price |
|
|
Y12 - 37 |
$119 |
$99 |
$79 |
Y12 - 67 |
$209 |
$189 |
$151 |
Y12 - 111 |
$359 |
$339 |
$271 |
Y25 - 37 |
$69 |
$49 |
$39 |
Y25 - 67 |
$168 |
$148 |
$118 |
Y25 - 111 |
$269 |
$249 |
$199 |
Y37 - 67 |
$119 |
$99 |
$79 |
Y37 - 111 |
$240 |
$220 |
$176 |
Y67 - 111 |
$149 |
$129 |
$103 |
Big Y |
Standard Price |
|
|
Big Y |
$575 |
|
$525 |
Family Finder |
Standard Price |
|
|
FF |
$99 |
|
$89 |
mtDNA |
Standard Price |
|
|
mtDNA+ |
$69 |
|
not on sale |
mtDNA FullSeq |
$199 |
|
$169 |
mtDNA+ to FullSeq |
$159 |
|
$149 |
SNP Packs |
Standard Price |
|
|
SNP Packs |
$99, $119 |
|
$10 off each pack |
Note that there is also a postal cost added – currently US$9.50 to a non American country.
Found at www.23andMe.com (prices are US$)
The basic test costs US$99.00 – this gives autosomal results but an indication of the Y and mtDNA Haplogroups is included.
The health reports will cost a further US$100 and such reports are not included by any other genealogical testing firm.
Postage to NZ is by return ‘door-to-door’ courier but this costs US$79.00
AncestryDNA is included for completeness, but it is not a firm I recommend unless you are just vaguely curious or you have an annual subscription with Ancestry which you intend to continue.
Found at http://dna.ancestry.com.au/ for
For US testers, found at http://dna.ancestry.com/
For
The test costs AU$149.00 plus postage. This gives autosomal matches.
For US testers it is US$99 which includes postage
For
Prices as at 21 November 2015 from the site
Here is the ‘tiny URL’:
http://tinyurl.com/o57ynr2
NZ |
|
|
|
$1.00 |
$0.66 |
$0.91 |
£0.43 |
|
|
|
|
$229.17 |
$150.40 |
$207.81 |
£99.00 |
$150.85 |
$99.00 |
$136.79 |
£65.17 |
It is somewhat astonishing to see the price differentials – and of course, by the time you read this, the exchange rates will have again altered, thus the supplied website so you may see for yourselves.
We invite contributions
from FamNet members for this section: please
contact The Editor if you have
any material. Contributions received after the 22nd of each month may be
carried forward.
During the early
2000’s I was asked by a fellow researcher “Could I please find out what and/or
where was Five Fingers of Lead, as
this was to do with Samuel Oates and Jane Bonsall who settled here in
Carterton”. The couple came from
Derbyshire, a beautiful part of
Rakes End Farm is where Jane had lived, Rakes is the end of a lead seam, and Derbyshire is thick underground with lead, as when I was searching for the name of Dalefield, there is a Mine near Wirksworth called Dalefield, a CD was kindly posted to me from there all about it.
No one was able to tell me about what I was looking for so I
emailed Derbyshire County Council. I
found a lovely lady to help me who referred me to Mrs Shipley of Hulme
End.
Five Fingers of Lead, were in fact two public houses, one at Youlgreave which possibly the couple rode over to meet up at. Five Fingers is a lead measurement.
This find, on Five Fingers of Lead, started an ongoing
friendship with the couple at Hulme End, and I stayed with them in 2004 for a
few weeks in their 16th Century Farmhouse. I asked Valerie about her
family history. I have Irish blood in my
veins and I get feelings that I can’t explain, but from the start of her
writing to me and still there when I was staying with them was that there was a
local connection. I mentioned the family history, and asked if “By chance was
she related to Jane Bonsall?” as oddly
enough Valerie’s sister lived next to the farm where Jane was bought up. Neither sister knew their history then, but I
said to them that when I returned to
I was treated like a member of their family staying with
them, taken out most days and shown all around the lovely valley, it’s a
holiday I will never forget. Sadly Alan,
Valerie’s husband, died a few months back, very sad. I am still in touch with Valerie, she
actually has a relative buried at the
I have a photograph on my computer of Jane’s old family
home. The couple lived in
Carterton Early Settlers Researcher.
I apologise for the missing masterpiece in the last newsletter but I experienced the mind altering death of my computer. Believe me it was a terrible experience. Suddenly I had so much time on my hands. My fingers itched for the pleasure of punching keyboards. No 'important' emails arrived - there were times I was praying for a bit of spam, it would have been treated with reverence if it had appeared. Believe me snail mail is slow. Nobody rang me. I was in a communication desert. My lawns have never been so lovingly mowed. Gosh I even chatted with my wife - it scared her.
Once again this column will be disjointed but such are the powers of a columnist - he gets to set the rules. Hence disjointed it is.
Given my recent experience, it is not surprising that I would mention this. Luckily it was a slow death and, thanks to my son's expertise, he backed everything on my computer onto a spare hard drive.
Sometimes you forget what you have on your computer. I have scanned many of my mother's photograph albums. I have a copy of a special slide show my wife produced for my daughter's twenty first celebrations (too many years ago to mention the exact amount). I have the digital copy of the book I wrote about twenty years ago for a family reunion. My family history program has some 4000 people on it with many, many photographs. I have copies of many speeches I have given over many years. Having just spent thirty minutes of nostalgia looking at all the photographs and files that I have I shudder to think what I would have lost if the death had been sudden.
For a while I was backing up some of my important files (but not all) on memory sticks every now and again. I would forget to label the sticks and consequently would use those sticks as general "memory carriers". I would store these sticks in the drawer of the desk or even on the coffee mug that holds my pens etc. There is even one in the car. But there is nothing like a computer crash to rewrite the procedures manual. Therefore I am going to do the following:
· back up regularly ie monthly
· label my back up storage, no more "what's this" moments
· keep at least 2 months backup storage
· invest in a hard drive for complete backups. This means my many, many photographs and valuable files can be saved.
· think about alternative safekeeping venues. It seems pointless to backup your computer and leave that backup sitting next to the computer.
· anything else I may think of in the future.
I did suggest that I buy a laptop as a backup system but the Minister of Finance in my household shook her head very strongly which I took as a negative sign.
I know you all back up your computer - don't you? But I am a late developer and there is nothing like a computer crash to focus your mind on these matters.
I highly recommend
that you review your back up procedures.
(From Robert: I’d recommend getting an external hard drive: at about $70 for 1TB this provides more backup storage than you’re ever likely to need unless you’re into pirating movies. Then set up your computer to back up every 24 hours, using either the utilities provided with the operating system, or a product like Acronis. These backup programs will initially take a full backup of your computer, then every 24 hours backup all the changed files, they run unobtrusively, and are easy to recover particular files. Once set up, you can forget about it, it just works provided that you leave the hard disk plugged in, and you’ll get messages if not. I’ve never experienced recovering the whole computer, but presumably this too is relatively easy.
To cover the risk of the hard drive being stolen along with your computer you could store critical files in Dropbox. There will then be a copy on your computer and another in the cloud. You treat Dropbox as just another folder on your computer, and every time that you make changes Dropbox will automatically and unobtrusively update the cloud copy).
In my first column I suggested that you write your autobiography, especially if you have a situation or two in your past that you would rather hide or put a better interpretation on than what happened. Well the famous Mr Robert Barnes found an interesting article
https://theamericanscholar.org/the-examined-lie/#.VixTWiviOzm
I am surprised that I had stumbled into an area of scientific research but, yes, the "memory" discussed here is exactly what I was suggesting. Aren't you amazed that an old, semi-decrepit, mind bogglingly stupid man can suggest the use of such a deeply intellectual field of scientific research for the benefit of you, yourself, in a effort to immortalise (in a better bias) your life? Love that sentence.
The only proviso is that your "invented memory" be sufficiently cloudy so that the future researcher glides over that portion of your life without any further digging to verify your statements. Make your memory a little vague eg
Memory:
My love of gardening and
agriculture lead to an offer of a position with the Government in Turangi where
I could use my skills in these fields for a few years whilst I considered my
next moves in my life
Fact: Sentenced, for growing
cannabis, to two years at Rangipo Prison
Remember that you have one chance of forestalling any future family member finding your embarrassing events. Do not make out that you were a hero because that is easily verified. Also it is worth considering how far digital accessibility to records is going to become.
I also remember a friend ranting and raving about her father
in law, in his nineties, who would not talk to her about his life. He was
almost insulting in his refusal to answer her questions. Luckily or unluckily
for him and her I found the reason why when I was researching in the Police
Gazettes. He had a problem or two with motorbikes sticking to his hands in the
late 1920s. Some even followed him home and would not leave when he asked. This
resulted in a period of rest and recreation in one of Her Majesty's hotels. In
his case he could have led her astray by suggesting that he moved to
Anyway, thanks Robert for that interesting article. It is well worth reading if you are in the process of hiding an embarrassment or two.
Having recently moved houses I "discovered" the extent of my library. Having disposed of seven cartons of books before moving I am left with a huge library.
I have every book, bar two that I will buy in the next few
weeks, which have been produced on Hokianga history. This library is mainly
historical, particularly NZ history. I have purchased some at auctions. I have
been given some by people who knew that I would value them. I have found some
in second hand bookshops all over
When I leave my family in peace after many years of being a thorough nuisance, my wife will probably have great pleasure in getting rid of most of it. Obviously I do not blame her but would spin in the ashes urn if they were dumped or destroyed. My problem is: where I can donate this library so that the value I attach to it will be matched by future users.
My first thought was to give it to the NZ Society of Genealogists who do not have copies of most of the books in my library. BUT, would you donate to an organisation that has deemed you not a fit and proper person to be a member. No - it is not an option.
My second thought is to approach the Hokianga museum or the few libraries up there to see if they would be interested. This is likely to be the way I will go.
The problem is not urgent, I hope, but it needs to be addressed before I move on. I think that this is a problem that many of us need to consider. It also applies to our family history research and the historical photos that have been acquired but I will discuss this in a later column.
I am suggesting that everybody seriously consider the disposal of all the books and treasures accumulated during your addiction to that disease called genealogy. It is not fair on your loved, or otherwise, ones to inflict that chore without giving some suggestions.
I would be interested in any suggestions.
Peter Nash
PANash@xtra.co.nz
Do you pull an ugly face when someone mentions sourcing your data in your genealogy program??!!!
I have just been to Kapiti to give
my annual (for over 10 years) Legacy Lectures. Around 40 people attended the
seminar day on Saturday.
I decided
to cover Sources. But, realising that people may not attend with this as the
subject, I called the morning presentations “Preparation, Participation,
Preservation”. Or “Sight, Site, Cite!!”
So - what
do you do when you start to research a new person? I have a wonderful family to research -
belongs to one of my Meals-on-Wheels people. Born in NSW; her mother died in
Let’s stop
there. If this was you, what Sourcing would you have done?
Whilst you
wait for the printout to arrive by email (same day some times).
Here is
what I did:
1. Created
the Master Source for Family Interview - Olive XX (my MOW lady) and the detail
of the date and place of the conversation. Sourced her birthday (same as
mine!!) to this Master Source. Sourced her Mother’s name, death date, death
place to this interview.
2. Created
Master Source of Registrar General’s Index to source the year of Mother’s death
and her birth date.
3. Searched
www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search for her death.
4. Captured
the screen showing the Death Index results for my search for her death. Did
this with www.faststone.org capture program. Free to trial then around $US20 to purchase. I used
this because it is so easy to ....
5. Caption
the clip. I need to record what I searched for, what time frame, and the date
searched, and the results. I need to see the Registration Number. I can do this
so easily with Faststone.
6. Now I
have a worthwhile media clip to add to the Master Source of Registrar General’s
Index.
7. Having a
Master Source of Registrar General’s Index lets you keep track of your searches
and the results - especially when you have a list of sibling’s registrations.
You don’t want or perhaps need to order and pay for a print out, but you need
to record and source the fact that this event was registered.
8. If you
have a lot of relevant hits, you could highlight and copy the hits and paste
into TreePad, Word, Excel etc as well as saving as a Source. [Hint left click
to the left of the first character you want to copy and then SHIFT left click
to the right of the last character you want to copy. All characters between the
clicks will be highlighted. Hit Control C to copy and then Control V to paste
in your chosen program.
9.
Depending on how important, to your research and family, the person is, you
might want to save the screen capture without the caption and as a .tiff file
(so that you capture that image at the best possible resolution even if created
as a .jpg) and then caption and save, a second time, especially for your
source.
10. I use www.irfanview.com to save a .jpg as a .tiff. Free
program and great for other things as well eg straighten that crooked image of
census page etc.
Hope this
has given you something new to think about. Sorry I can’t include some 48 hour
days so you have time to go back to all your entries and source to the Master
Source - Registrar General’s Index!!!!
2016 Hooked
on Genealogy Tour will leave on 28 May for 21 nights in
For more
information email HOGTours@gmail.com.
Genealogy
or Ancestral Tourism is
a segment of the tourism market
consisting of tourists who
have ancestral connections to their holiday destination. These genealogy tourists travel
to the land of their ancestors to reconnect with their past and "walk in
the footsteps of their forefathers". This was my objective in
Ancestral tourism has potential to create good income for
tourism businesses - See
more here. Scottish tourism
businesses were encouraged to adapt their products and services to tap into
ancestral tourism opportunities in the run up to 2014, when
For more, search Google for “Ancestral tourism”.
It was on the
basis of previous research on my forebears, Andrew Goodwin and Lydia Munro, who
were in the First Settlement on
I found the
I was also
delighted to meet a living relative, who added to the value of my trip. I had not expected to meet a living relative
as my ancestors went to Van Diemen’s Land, now called
Since my trip
and through the encouragement of my new cousin, I have started using Facebook
and have joined a number of convict Facebook sites and meeting even more
cousins.
Peter Calvert has just written a paragraph on this subject
and I offer my personal advice on what we in both sides of my family have
done. I have led the way in our case by
suggesting and going through with applying a brass plaque to two family graves,
one in Wanganui, and the other in Young NSW, my home town. Stonemasons over the
centuries have used different methods of lettering on headstones but very few
of them are particularly long lasting.
So in 2004 in Wanganui we found a neglected grandparents’
The answer is a bronze plaque with raised lettering fixed in an appropriate blank space on the headstone. These are almost indestructible, from time to time thieves have stolen them, but that is a rare occurrence because they are usually firmly fixed. The cost back in 2004 was around $450 but when you organise the lettering to accurately record birth and death dates, it is a relatively inexpensive update. In Young we were dealing with a vandalised gothic window shaped headstone, which was poorly replaced on the flat of the grave – an illegal fix according to the local municipal council because the grave was considered an historic one, and should have been faithfully repaired, and in an upright position.
My grandparents’ new “headstone” at Young NSW, it might be
obvious with that family middle name whose grandparents they are. Above left is the completed restoration plaque
and the right photo the whole grave showing the improvement, but it does not
excuse the sloppy fix of the original headstone. If families are
concerned at the state their ancestor’s grave they should not only consult a
monumental mason but also the local council.
I am not sure what NZ local bodies have in the way of rules over
historic graves, but in
My mother kept chasing up the monumental mason to contemplate a good fix, and hence in desperation he blundered into using “no more nails” glue or its equivalent!
Hanley Hoffmann, Waikanae Family History Group.
Contacts:
Pat: (09) 437 0692 whangareifamilyhistorygroup@gmail.com
Venues
Thursday evening venue is
email Whangareifamilyhistorygroup@gmail.com, if you need directions.
Saturday meetings are held
in the SeniorNet rooms in
The rooms are upstairs in the
Contacts:
Email: wfhgroup@paradise.net.nz Phone (04) 904 3276, (
Venue: Meets every 4th Thursday morning at the Waikanae Chartered
Club,
Here is Waikanae’s latest newsletter. See above for Hanley’s contribution – with
its photos I (Robert) felt that it seemed better in the general News and Views
section.
Remember
that you can post photos for identification, and information wanted requests:-
Click here to
request help with some information
We’ll post
the photos and information requests in the next newsletter, and they’ll remain
on display for at least a year.
If you can
help anybody below with their information requests please email them, cc editor@famnet.org.nz.
Robert, I have been reading Famnet for a long time and thought it was time to offer something.
I'm working with the Porirua RSA developing a website that will have an individual story of the service men and women from the wider Porirua District who have served in conflicts from the Boer War through to Modern day Peace Keeping. The criteria is simply 'if they called the area home.'
To date 26 men from the wider district who served in the Boer War have been identified. Their stories, with photos where we have found them, have been loaded up onto the website.
200+ names of men and women from World War One are also up on the website and 30 of their stories loaded with more each week.
One group of interest are the men and women from the Porirua
Mental Institute who enlisted in the NZ Medical Corp and NZ Army Army Nursing
Service. Of a staff of sixty, forty eight served with many paying the ultimate
price. A large number of the men were single men from the
If anyone has a World War One relative who has a Porirua /Plimmerton / Pukerua Bay / Pauatahanui / Titahi Bay or Tawa connection and believes they should be included we will be more than happy to do the military research for the story.
The website is www.poriruawarstories.com
e-mail contact is poriruawarstories@gmail.com
Once World War One is completed it is then the stories if the 300= who served in this conflict so the project is very long term.
I can supply high resolution photos of men from Boer War, World War One and World War Two if required.
(Robert: To assist
Alan and Irene with their projects I have set up a searchable table of their
data. Go to the General Resource
Databases section and select the table “Service
Personnel”. In the case of Alan’s
records this contains a link that will open a story from the Porirua web
site. Alan and Irene can update their
own records, and can put links to their tables on their own web sites)
I am involved in a local project.
Near
I have a list of the photos required together with their enlistment numbers and which war they served in.I have searched Papers Past , Auckland Cenotaph etc.
I have attached a file to give you more of an idea of what it is we are about.
Any assistance you are able provide will be acknowledged in a book that we hope to have published in time for ANZAC Day 2016.
My name is Toni Osborne and I live in Darwin Australia I am trying to locate a whole branch of my tree My pops half brother William Osborne was born at Gulgong in northwest Nsw in 1875 He married Elsie M Steinhour born 1868 at Coonabarabran also in north west NSW in 1907 Sometime between their marriage and the birth of their first child William Elijah Z Osborne in 1908 they migrated to New Zealand So far I have not been able to locate their immigration records They had at least five children William 1908 Henry Albert 1910 Roy Jones 1911 Una Elsie 1914 Stanley 1918
I have located some of their burials in the Waipawa area William sr, Henry Albert and his wife Molly
William Elijah lived at 57 Clare Street Cambridge and was buried in 1992 but I could not find any death or funeral for Elsie I am coming to New Zealand in April and intend to visit the research centre in Auckland prior to visiting the Cambridge and Napier areas to do some digging Any advice or assistance in locating the original Osbornes migration and residential information wouLd be greatly
Thanks in anticipation
I would like to know if anyone can help me out with info on a Rae Arnold Arthur Sharp. He was born in 1906 to a William Henry Sharp and Louisa Maud Grace Millar. Their marriage split up in 1906 also after Louisa had been having an affair with a Harold Shepherd. It is said in his divorce statement she was seen going to Fiji as a Mrs Shepherd around that time, and they later settled in Hamilton area where they had two children of their own..
No mention of what happened to the children, a Doris Mary
Emma Sharp, and Rae Arnold Arthur Sharp.. Doris grew up and married a Aurelio
Mereu in 1920 and lived in
Thank you, Murray Sharp
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by Philippa Werry published 2014 by Scholastic New Zealand Limited ISBN 978-1-77543-166-4 Review by Peter Nash I picked this book up in a sale for a very cheap price. It is classified as a children's' book and that is why I probably enjoyed reading it (no big words) but do not be put off by this classification. As you are probably aware I am writing my memoirs
(probably not a best seller but the family may appreciate the finished
product), and this book gave a feeling for what life was like in the middle
to late fifties, particularly in The other reason I bought the book is that my father in
law came from For the price I paid this was a treasure and I highly
recommend it as a source of the fifties lifestyle. |
Ettie Rout |
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by Jane Tollerton published by Penguin 2015 ISBN978-0-14-357324 (available through Whitcoulls) This book examines a side of World War 1 that is not spoken about and treated "hush hush". One of the "entertainments" that soldiers experienced in their leave, rest periods, recuperation time and general spare time involved the sexual act and the consequences, during World War 1, were profound on the soldiers and their families when they returned. To quote: The VD infection rate will be about 20 per cent of the approximately
100,000 men who served with the NZEF overseas; there are not accurate
figures. In March 1919, a medical corps doctor, answering a query from the
Chief Health Officer will write, "At a moderate estimate I
consider there have been at least 16,000 cases of venereal disease. Of these
nearly 4,000 are cases of syphilis." Whether the treatments the men have been given have worked is often
not clear to either doctor or patient. The resulting damage done to the men,
their wives and girlfriends and unborn children will be uncountable but
massive. Men with syphilis will die sooner or later but doctors will often
record the immediate cause of death, such as pneumonia, to save family
embarrassment." Ettie Rout was a New Zealander who fought against the Government, the Army command and general public conservatism to provide various means of battling infection that may result from sexual encounters. She did not try to, sanctimoniously, preach celibacy but concentrated her efforts on avoiding infection. For this she was greatly admired by the soldiers but was treated with totally opposite sentiments by everybody else. This book gives another side of World War 1. It is a very
sobering read but a necessary read that may explain a few incidents in your
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